Episode 481 – Our HAL Hawaiian Cruise Favourites & Final Impressions

This post is a bit out of chronological order, but I wanted a couple of days to review my first impressions, verify them with Ted, and tweak a few notes.

Our first cruise with Holland America was a short 7 day Alaskan itinerary back in August, not really long enough to truly decide whether HAL delivers what we want in a cruise. Alaska cruise final thoughts This time we had 24 days on board, which I think is enough on which to base our opinions.

(And they are OUR opinions. I know many of our fellow cruisers will have different ones!)

Favourite breakfast: made-to-order crepes in the Lido

Favourite lunch spot: New York York Pizza & Deli for Ted; Dive-In Burger Bar for me. A big plus to both those venues is that they are not buffets.

Favourite bar: Panorama on deck 10 by the New York Deli (their margaritas & Bloody Marys were the best on the ship).

Most disappointing bar feature: lack of enough of the right kinds of glasses. Daiquiris served in highball glasses and martinis in port wine glasses just feel wrong. Second would be the inability of (most) bar staff to correctly pour a glass of beer that is not 60% foam.

Favourite coffee spot: Crow’s Nest on 12. Too bad it closes at 8 p.m.

Favourite specialty restaurant: Tamarind. No contest.

Least favourite eatery: Lido buffet. Insufficient seating, too few servers to keep tables cleared, too many things folks can potentially (which means some do) pick up with their hands. Plus, (it’s just my opinion based on our other cruise experiences) less than attractive food presentation at all but the Rise and Breadboard stations, and most especially during late evening self-serve dessert hours when the unstaffed “Sweet Spot” station can be downright messy.

Favourite music venue: Billboard Onboard, with its dual pianist/vocalists Bryan and Katie. They were consistently upbeat and fun, and always delivered a good show. I might have preferred the blues and soul music in BBKings (I love a good trumpet player) but found the volume way too amped up.

Most surprising amenity: quality of the basic wifi, which allowed everything I needed to do to upload photos, blog, and use both Facebook and Messenger (even video calls). Since I don’t use my device to stream video, I didn’t need to upgrade beyond the included package.

Best feature: the cabins! HAL’s basic balcony cabin design wins over Viking’s DV class due to larger closets, more storage drawers, and 2 strong hooks on the wall ready for coats (no need to bring your own magnetic hooks). The bathroom design, while no larger than Viking’s, feels roomier because of the angled toilet which frees up floor space for drying off or using the sink.

Most disappointing feature: smoking in the casino, especially since it is midship directly in the path between the theatre and the dining room. I really wish they’d restrict smoking to the 2 or 3 designated outdoor deck areas that are already set aside.

Least favourite thing: the ubiquitous ship’s photographers wanting to take photos and then selling them at wildly inflated prices.

Excursions: sadly, this is where HAL really doesn’t shine – or at least didn’t on this particular cruise. The (lack of) organization in separating tour groups and getting them going efficiently was particularly bad in our Hawaiian ports, where confusion reigned supreme. The Excursion Manager was often curt with passengers looking for help, and concerns/complaints were addressed with less than graciousness. (I found that to be the case with our Cruise Director as well – compliments graciously received, but my only complaint/suggestion barely acknowledged and neither addressed nor redirected). Excursion descriptions were also a problem, in our opinion: the final product just didn’t live up to the glowing description in many cases (Episode 472 being the most obvious example). Excursion descriptions all include “3 top reasons to book this excursion”, and yet in our experience those top features were not regularly evident in the tours delivered.

Service: Our cabin stewards were wonderful. Bartenders were really inconsistent between venues, and that would apply to baristas, servers and wait staff too – sometimes outstanding , and sometimes borderline lackadaisical. An observation, which is not necessarily a criticism, is that the staff in all venues routinely communicate with each other in their own languages when not interacting directly with passengers, and that seems to be reflected in their English language proficiency (as compared to our observations of Viking crew, for example). I guess it also lets staff talk “confidentially” about passengers! I also found the lack of proper drink glasses and drink garnishes really disconcerting (a martini served in a port glass – with pickle-stuffed olives (!), liqueurs served in tumblers, margaritas in highball glasses, just to name a few), but perhaps that doesn’t bother everyone.

BOTTOM LINE: Holland America hasn’t lured us away from Viking, but we definitely wouldn’t rule out sailing with them again, depending on itinerary. The experience to price ratio works. We came in at $340CAD/per person/per day “all in” with the cruise itself, excursions, drinks, specialty restaurant dining, laundry, and all gratuities including extra voluntary tips to our cabin stewards. It would have been higher if we’d paid for our flights, but we had credit card points to cover both those and our pre-cruise hotel stay.

12 comments

  1. Holland America does have a rule that staff are to speak English only in passenger areas but sounds like it is not enforced. I was on the sailing after yours and only noticed this issue in the lido buffet.

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  2. Rose, I agree with everything in your post.. Only thing I would add from my observation.. was the awful upkeep of cleanliness up in the Crow’s Nest. Every service was glass, drink marked.. dirty napkins and just yuck to look at.. I ordered a soda, the bar tender brought it over, since there was no wait staff at that time.. an he had a towel in hand.. why couldn’t he have been proud enough, to at least wipe off my table before setting down my napkin and drink. It’s the lack of care in the public areas that I find pretty bad.. Other than that, no complaints.. Thanks for your post, love reading them.. We’re sailing again in October – Hawaii round about to Vancouver.

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    • We MAY be living in the Vancouver area in October. If you end up with time for coffee, just put a comment on any blog post and we can make arrangements. Always love meeting new people!

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  3. Thanks for all the detail. You’ve inspired me to do a comparison. We leave March 17 (should be a great St. Patrick’s Day!) for a 21 ship-night transatlantic cruise, Buenos Aires to Barcelona, on Viking Jupiter. There are 12 sea days and 9 days with something to do on land, including overnights aboard in both embarkation and disembarkation ports with included tours available. We’ve booked one special excursion in Rio, using the OBC which was part of the promotion we booked under and have about $90 pp left in the shipboard credit. 

    Assuming prepaying daily $17 pp gratuities and not counting minor expenses ashore (we don’t tend to buy anything to eat or drink) our cruise comes to $US 299/$CA397 per person per day, including airfare, travel insurance, seat upgrade and the extra we paid to have a stopover in Dublin on the way home. Our cruise is 57% sea days and yours was 54% sea days. We don’t have a drinks package but take full advantage of Viking’s wine and beer with meals (and I think I was offered at least 6 glasses of champagne during various events aboard on our October cruise.). Laundry and an excursion in every port is included of course. 

    So, Viking @ $397/day and HAL @$340 Canadian. We weren’t going to cruise this year and now I know that Viking was giving us an offer we couldn’t refuse! The biggest plus for us is that we’ll have a stopover in London with our daughter who has finally moved into a flat with room for us, at least for a limited time, interspersed with time out doing other short visits to friends.

    In the future, I’ll be looking for just this kind of deal — so it may be a while before we can do it again, but I’m ever hopeful! 

    Enjoy that beautiful flat! 

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    • You definitely got a great deal!! Enjoy it to the fullest – as it sounds like you will! (We also don’t do a drink pkg on on Viking, but on HAL without one we’d even have had to pay for sparkling water and fancy coffee! (Plus no wine or beer even at meals)

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      • I’m glad to have that confirmed by such a travel expert as yourself!

        It was a free airfare from anywhere, double past guest discount and $400 OBC deal (would have been even more at a higher level cabin — we are in a DV6, 3031.) I forget what the code for the deal was. BTW – on Cruise Critic there’s a Viking thread where people share deals they’ve gotten emails about since not everyone seems to get the same offers. Is the booking process any different from Canada? I know the UK folks have a different route in. I’m sorry you didn’t book it –would have been great to meet you on board!

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        • We do get offer emails, but seems like they’re not always the same as the US offers, especially the free air portion, which tends to have restricted gateways, and I’ve never seen a double past guest discount either! (We too book DV6’s) Agreed – it would have been fun to meet!!

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  4. Hey Rose! My wife and I just did a Windstar cruise in December. We’ve also done two Viking cruises. I also noticed that staff often spoke languages other than English to each other on the Windstar cruise – we figured that Viking must have an explicit rule forbidding this because we never heard anything other than English on those cruises.

    Interesting that you picked up on that too!

    Thanks for posting! 

    Jeff

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    • As I said, not a complaint, just an observation. We did, on Viking, occasionally hear crew speaking to passengers in the passenger’s native (non-English) language – just never crew-to-crew where a passenger might feel excluded.

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